to get into the unitive world underneath, underlying and supporting the everyday practical world there have to be certain alterations in one's common sense now there are certain ideas and beyond these ideas certain feelings that are difficult to get across not because they're intellectually complicated not at all because of that, but because they're unfamiliar they're strange we haven't been brought up to accommodate them in exactly the same way that in past times people knew that the planets were supported in the sky because they were embedded in spheres of crystal and if they weren't embedded in spheres of crystal and of course you could see them because you could see through them they would fall down on the earth and now when astronomers finally suggested that there were no crystal spheres people felt unbelievably insecure see? they had a terrible time assimilating this idea. now do you see what it involves to assimilate a really new idea? you have to do quite a flip for example there are some people whose number systems only account for quantities one, two, three many. so they don't have any concept of four corners to a table see a table has many corners and a pile of pebbles is in that sense equivalent in manyness to the four corners of a table now they have difficulty you see in beginning to assimilate the idea of counting through and numbering all those corners or all those pebbles but we've done that and so to us that is perfectly simple but imagine the kind of mentality the kind of person to whom that is not simple at all. now in exactly the same way there is here what I'm trying to explain a new idea that most people don't assimilate and that is the idea of the total interdependence of everything in the world the Buddhists in Japan call it "jiji-muge" between thing and thing, between event and event there is no block and they represent this imagistically as a net work imagine a multi-dimensional spider web covered in dew in the morning and every single drop of dew on this web contains in it the reflections of all the other drops of dew and of course in turn in every drop of dew that one drop reflects there is the reflection of all the others again and they use this image to represent the interdependence of everything in the world. In other words if we give this dew drop image if we put it into a linguistic analogy we would say this words have meaning only in context the meaning of any word depends upon the sentence or upon the paragraph in which it's found so that if I say this tree has no bark that's one thing and if I say this dog has no bark that's another thing. So you see always that the meaning of the word is in relation to the context. Now in exactly the same way the meaning as well as the existence of an individual person, an organism, is in relation to the context you are what you are sitting here at this moment in your particular kind of clothes and with the particular colors of your faces and your particular personalities your family involvements, your business involvements your neuroses and your everything. You are that precisely in relation to an extremely complex environment. So much so that if, let's take for example this piece of wood that forms a support to the beam out here. Now believe me this is true you can see that has little nubbles on it and so on. If it were not the way it is you would not be the way you are. The line of connection between what is it is and you are is very very complicated. Also we could say if a given star that we observed didn't exist you would be different from what you are now I don't say you wouldn't exist but you would exist differently but you might say the connection is very faint is something that you don't ordinarily have to think about it's not important but basically it is important only you say I don't have to think about it because it's there all the time. See for example the floor is underneath you all the time some sort of floor, some sort of earth and you really don't have to think about it it's just always there, it's always around if you become insensitive you stop thinking about it but there it is and so in the same way our subtle interdependence with, mind you it's not just our plain existence it's the kind of existence we have is dependent upon all these things also our plain existence but that gets way down but the fundamental thing is existence is relationship in other words if my finger up here is all alone and the wind doesn't move and nothing touches it, it stops knowing that it's there but if something comes along and does immediately it's aware that it's there. So ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha you see it takes two, we could have so much fun but it takes more than one, and she don't want to but in this way you see what we call duality, you can see can't you how duality is fundamental it takes two but [BLANK_AUDIO] {END} Wait Time : 0.00 sec Model Load: 0.69 sec Decoding : 0.65 sec Transcribe: 721.86 sec Total Time: 723.20 sec